|how can muslim
women stand it!!
Date: 08-20-04 15:04 PDT
These men! THEY are the only ones who could divorce the women
and the women have to stay married to them even if they don't
want to and THEY are the only ones that can remarry them if
they so choose? what if they don't want to remarry them?
|Re: how can
muslim women stand it!!
Date: 08-20-04 17:38 PDT
Part of it is what you've grown up with.
Part of it is the customs of the country you're in.
And part of it is ignorance or misuse of the Koran which
does state that women can divorce their husbands, too. Of
course, if the women are stuck in a country in which they
need the "protection" of a man to survive, forget
In Jade's case, she does have the option of not accepting
the terms of marriage at the time of the ceremony, but that
would bring down disgrace on the entire family and I doubt
that anyone, even her beloved Tio Ali, would support her in
that. Certainly not in the early years of this story. The
family reputation would have been ruined, making it difficult
to find spouses for other family members. This had been a
fear of Latifah's for herself and, later, of Mohammed for
the futures of their children.
In tightly knit communities, family reputations and the threat
of social stigma are huge factors in controlling the behavior
Remember, too, Jade is currently wrestling with the power
that Said has over her with regard to Kadijah.
true ..it really IS what you grow up with
Date: 08-22-04 08:34 PDT
I think and I don't think it's really too far beyond understanding
to see why it would be accepted by most women when it's what
they've grown up with...realistically we who have been raised
in our culture here would never ever be able to understand
it fully...but for me the question is: why would a woman want
to CONVERT to Islam..knowing the restrictions that Muslim
women face? I know that there are good reasons but I just
can't imagine it..especially if one were forced to move to
the country that will enforce each and every restriction..one
of the things that I found terrifying in Clon was the fact
that Jade couldn't even TRAVEL and leave when she wanted to..not
without permission...I couldn't imagine that at all!!!!
very true ..it really IS what you grow up with
Date: 08-22-04 10:31 PDT
I agree with you on being puzzled about why a woman would
convert to Islam with all of its restrictions. Having been
raised a Catholic at a time when there were plenty of restrictions
on women's freedom, to me it would be like "jumping out
of the frying pan into the fire."
But, then again, there's the factor of marrying into a particular
culture. As we've learned on this forum, it's very often the
various cultures that impose restrictions on women, not Islam
itself. For a basically religious woman, it might not be any
different than it was for the millions of Catholic women who
used to willingly become nuns. Now there was a restricted
life! It's remarkable that, in the Sixties, when Pope John
XXIII lifted the restrictions and ordered the nuns to leave
off their habits to rejoin the world, they left the convent
in droves. In effect, he singlehandedly destroyed the backbone
of the Catholic Church.
Frankly, I'm pretty fed up with ALL religions anymore. There
are other ways to communicate with your god or goddess and
lead a rich spiritual life.
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